I feel beyond blessed to have connected with comedian Paul Gilmartin (of Dinner and a Movie fame). Today, Paul shares with us a bracingly honest account of dealing with covert sexual abuse and incest. I honor Paul’s forthrightness and honesty in dealing with his past, and helping so many others with theirs.
Paul hosts an incredible weekly, hour-long audio podcast, The Mental Illness Happy Hour, consisting of interviews with artists, friends and the occasional doctor. Paul has graciously offered to interview me, and we are going to make it happen in his L.A. studio live soon!
*Strong trigger warning for sexual situations and imagery.*
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I’m a recovering alcoholic and addict, I’ve been diagnosed with treatment-resistant depression due to childhood adversity, and I’m a survivor of covert incest. Which is a lot to fit onto a business card. There’s a special font called “ehhhh.”
Covert sexual abuse or covert incest means stuff happened but none of it was overtly sexual, it was more sexualizing, discreet, disguised or purely emotional. In other words, I didn’t fuck my mom. There’s a sentence everyone should experience saying to a room full of strangers. But she’s always given off the vibe that she wants me.
How can I describe what it feels like to be an incest survivor? Well. I didn’t sign up for it. I didn’t want it. And extricating myself from it has been painful. It’s like LinkedIn.
Most people who know my mom would never guess, because abusers are narcissists and most narcissists present a different persona outside the family very, very well.
1 in 5 males have been sexually abused and 40 percent of their abusers are female; mostly moms, sisters and babysitters. I never knew the numbers were that high. To be fair, I was keeping track with an abacus. Today, I learn through the internet and a free public records checker that these numbers are correct and in some cases increasing. We can’t screen our mothers and sisters but it goes without saying, perform a proper background check when hiring child services.
My mom feasted on my innocence; talking to me like a spouse starting when I was seven, breaking down and looking for me to comfort her yet not protecting me when I was being mistreated by adults right in front of her. She took my temperature rectally until I was eight, saying we needed to keep doing it this way because otherwise I might bite down on the thermometer. I remember feeling like I was being tricked but quickly banishing the thought.
There were often reasons for me to be naked or in my underwear that felt really sketchy and if I tried to cover up she would say “It’s nothing I haven’t seen before,” or “I saw it before you ever did,” making me feel like I was the one with the problem. My body never felt like my own.
Until I was 24 I let her grab my ass and tell me how attractive I was. Again she acted like I was being hypersensitive. After I moved out, she would leave messages saying “Hello Mr. Gilmartin, this is Mrs. Gilmartin” and say things like “Buy you a drink sailor?” The list goes on an on.
I don’t hate my mom. I feel sorry for her. But I don’t like her. I really really, really don’t like her.
I have never liked being around her. Ever since I was little, when I hug her I feel dead. I go numb like a possum. I shut down. I want to cover my genitals. I always figured I was just a bad son for not feeling differently.
I fear that people think I’ve abused children because of what happened to me. I haven’t; because I would never ever drive a van. Global warming is real.
Mostly, I craved approval and attention.
But incest has scarred my sexuality. It makes intimacy really, really difficult. Sexuality became a tool to numb myself instead of expressing love. I feel easily overwhelmed or even disgusted by the idea that my wife finds me attractive. It has nothing to do with her. It’s my fear of being devoured.
As incest survivors, we wind up having a really complicated relationship with our bodies because in many ways it’s a crime scene we can’t leave. Many of us experienced arousal during the abuse, right along with the feelings of being grossed out and frozen. It happened to me during a bath she insisted on giving me because I had gravel in my knee. I was 12.
If you’ve never experienced arousal AND being grossed out. It’s a roller coaster. Red Flags. Home of the half boner.
So I buried all these thoughts, feelings and the truths from myself and woke up every day with a suffocating feeling of doom. How can you not feel doomed when the person who was supposed to protect you is the person who tricked and used you?
Before I could put a name to what happened to me, I dealt with it by being a pig.
I objectified women and I know I hurt some. In hindsight, I couldn’t see them as people. They were bodies to simply soothe my unconscious pain. I’m still trying to forgive myself for it but it’s hard.
A lot of incest survivors are left with sexual fantasies that revolve around incest. This was never the case with me, until three years ago when I confronted what happened. Bit by bit all the memories were coming back but for some reason, I was now feeling their pain and giving them weight. I felt something inside of me breaking.
Starting in grade school I’ve always had a fantasy about going up to an older female and having her hold me while I cry. When I got into therapy I realized it had something to do with my mom not being there for me but I didn’t know what it was I wanted to say. As something in me started to break, I found the words.
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I went to my wife and asked for a hug. I broke down and started sobbing. I said “My mom tricked me, me she used me. I was a good boy. I didn’t deserve it.”
My wife said, “I’ve been waiting 20 years for you to say that.” She had my mom pegged the first time she met her and saw how she touched and looked at me. I always protested that that’s just how my mom is. I finally saw that my wife was right. I wanted to die. That’s how much I hate when my wife is right.
I don’t know if I can fully describe the feeling of confronting a truth like incest. It must be what someone experiences when a parent you love dies. Or when a popular person unfollows you.
When the image of my mom as loving – that I had to create to survive – popped, I felt not only like an orphan but stupid. If I could have missed that truth, what else was I wrong about in the world? I felt like an astronaut whose lifeline had been severed and I was floating in space. Untethered is the best word I can use to describe it.
So incest fantasies were how I dealt with the pain. In some sick way, it soothed me. I read stories online about boys being abused by older females that should have made me cry but they turned me on. I talked to my therapist and discovered it’s a really common thing with people who have experienced sexual trauma. Then I talked about it on the podcast and hundreds and hundreds of people shared similar experiences, not just with incest, but all sexual trauma. Some rape victims can only orgasm thinking about being raped. If that’s not a T-shirt, what is?
One man whose red-haired babysitter used to make him finger her was addicted to pornography, specifically videos of fingers being inserted into women with red hair.
I learned we often want to re-experience a facsimile of what happened, but change some small part of it to give us the illusion of control. The mere act of fantasizing about it is a way of taking control back.
For me, I fantasized about a different mom or babysitter doing it to the 11-year-old me. I masturbated to this fantasy to soothe the pain. And then one day I realized I was turned on by the idea of masturbating in front of my mom. That too could go on a T-shirt but it feels more like a hoodie.
In my fantasy, the piece I wanted to change was I wanted to be the one to manipulate the situation into happening. Fortunately, it was easy to imagine her going along with it. Gross, but true. I also found it interesting that the idea of HER manipulating or initiating something made me sick to my stomach.
I didn’t judge myself for this. I found it a little funny. I would think to myself “I’m about to jerk off thinking about jerking off in front of my mom.” I didn’t shame myself.
A small part of me worries that you are judging me for my fantasies, but the love I have received from talking openly about it has far outweighed those negative thoughts.
There is nothing like a warm hug from a fellow survivor. Crying on each other’s shoulders. It’s a beautifully fucked up club with a horrible cover charge.
As I’ve healed, the fantasy has decreased, thank God. But it’s still there. I have shared it with my wife, my friends and people in front of me at the post office.
It’s freeing to talk about and especially to laugh about. I do it all the time now, especially on my podcast, the Mental Illness Happy Hour.
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And the beautiful thing about surviving what I did, and opening up about it, is that people now open up to me about their pain, dark thoughts, fantasies, and confusion. Most sexual trauma doesn’t fit into a neat category, because most predators are trying like hell to avoid it looking like that, because then they can keep it hidden from you and probably themselves.
Actually, I wonder what she thinks about what she did. I’m afraid to confront her because the thought of being in the same room with her makes me sick. Unless I’m jerking off. Which would be awkward in a retirement home. I would have to do it when nobody’s around like at 2 in the afternoon when they’re all at dinner.
It doesn’t matter if the abuse that happened to you is prosecutable. That’s not the most important thing in healing. Especially since most people’s trauma isn’t prosecutable. Processing the feelings is what matters. Setting boundaries or cutting contact with toxic people and becoming your own best friend. That’s what we have control over.
I cut contact with my mom almost three years ago. Initially because of what she did, but ultimately, because of how she refuses to respect my boundaries today. It’s been the greatest vacation I’ve ever had.
If you’re out there and you relate, don’t keep it inside. Talk to someone. Talk to me. Email me. Just for the love of God, don’t do it through LinkedIn.
Originally written and read at Taboo Tales 12/3/14
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As a survivor, thank you for the trigger warning. I support these. Thank you for distinguising between sexual abuse and covert sexual abuse. Thank you for your courage, humor, sadness and honesty. Wonderful. Thank you, Rachel, for posting.
Thank you Jeanne, that means a lot to me. I think there are so many covert survivors who can’t even put a name to what they experienced so they dismiss it. I mean, my God look at how many overt survivors dismiss it. I really hope to bring more awareness and hope to them. And every supportive comment I get brings me strength and eases the shame and doubt.
Gives me a lot to talk about with Randii, my shrink, who wants to know if I think my mother was a narcissist.
It wasn’t covert in my case, I woke up the morning after I got home from a season of summer stock being fellated, and went on until I enlisted. Buried for 50 years.
Sat on the recalled memory for 6 months and finally spoke to my wife, suggested I needed to talk to a professional. She is pretty good about it, there are always fresh baked cookies or cake when I get back from a session.
Rachel knows me and my story, and I’ll send her a message breaking the anonymity of the e-mail, but it is real and I do check it.
I’m so so sorry you had to experience that. Thank God you’re opening up about it. It gets easier. Hang in there. There’s so much silence among males.
Rachel and her groups have been a great help. Boys have been conditioned to think they are lucky, not robbed.
My therapist has been suggesting reading, and while it is hard going (I read constantly, the topic makes it hard going) I am getting something out of it.
Good piece. It’s a good mix of emotions. Here’s what I want to comment on: “I learned we often want to re-experience a facsimile of what happened, but change some small part of it to give us the illusion of control. The mere act of fantasizing about it is a way of taking control back.”
It’s been my experience, in my own healing and with clients, that what happens isn’t wanting control, but resolution because ti was traumatizing and it’s still in the body.
Mine wasn’t family, but it wasn’t covert. From my earliest trauma (first month or so) to the time of my Perfect Storm call as a firefighter/EMT, the trauma just kept getting worse and worse, piling up. Now a couple years later that I’m on the back side of most of it, having learned that it isn’t neatly put in categories, and having taken my power back, I’ve been able to really grow. It felt great to get past the shame….
Thank you for sharing that Leckey. That makes sense about wanting a resolution. Is there ever a feeling of resolution? Where the fantasy disappears? I know it can fade. I’ve experienced some fading of it. Interestingly enough it seems to be related to increased self-care and self-advocacy, setting boundaries, etc.
Amazingly written. I snickered loudly more than once, then felt horrible for laughing, understanding the dark humor was completely deliberate.
Congratulations on finding a spouse who can help you through this. That’s huge. I’m glad you’re healing. Grace and peace and strength to you and your family.
Thank you for sharing this story, Paul. I’m so sorry those things happened to you.
Thank you for sharing this story, Paul. I can only imagine how hard it was to face what happened and then write about it. And then add humor to your essay. But it’s amazing that you did, because the humor makes it easier for people to read and understand. It’s such a difficult topic, and you handle it with extreme grace. All the best to you.
Thank you for sharing Paul – Having been a victim since 4 years of age, as well as recognizing my own bad behavior starting at age 9, it took me quite a number of years for me to relieve myself of the guilt I felt over my actions as well as forgiving those who behaved badly towards me. However unlike yourself, it was not so much my mother’s COVERT sexual actions, but the fact that she was trying to relieve herself of the stigmas and oppression of being a woman of the 50s and 60s and address her own issues with the abuse she suffered as a child. Her TALKS or opening up to my younger brother and I were more an expression of her distrust of men and her need to have her male children not grow up to be a source of similar oppression. Unfortunately it was not the correct way of going about educating a young man about these issues and she was very naive about how to go about it.
This is why it was so easy for me to forgive these trespasses if you will, and forgive those others that sexually abused me even later in my life; I recognize that there was an underlying factor within each of those persons that they were not cognitively aware of that led to their bad behavior. The toughest part was forgiving myself without excusing my naivety and bad behavior as a minor. At age 22 I was fortunate enough to experience a process which allowed me to review the source/reasons for my behavior and the feelings that I had as a consequence of these covert/overt sexual experiences. I am also able to reflect quite a bit on these bad experiences without suffering negative psychological affects including depression. Part of it comes from being able to quantify the original experiences and minimizing their value, in other words valuing myself more than the experience and having compassion for the abusers.
I hope you have the fortune to reconnect with your mother and she has the epiphany that will help her recognize her part in your suffering but I also hope you can find the same salvation I did by forgiving her completely.
Thank you for your raw honesty. So many people will be moved and hopefully challenged by your openness and ability to share so beautifully.
It can be difficult for survivors like us to open up and share our pain without the feeling like were going to be judged harshly if we can even open up and say what happened to us. But I can say without guilt that I am a survivor of childhood sexual abuse and incest and survived 17 years of abuse at the hands of my father and no longer carry the guilt that rightfully belongs to him.
Thank you for sharing your story, and your humor about it. Thank you for also mentioning the sexual fantasies. It is one of the hardest things for me to come to grips with in my recovery. It took me forever to even say anything to my therapist about it. I’m glad I did, but it still fills me with more shame and guilt because of their nature. You are the first person I’ve run across who has openly talked about it even though our stories are very different. It helps because I have so very alone and disgusted with myself for a very long time. Thank you, for sharing.